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Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL]
(09-23-2017, 10:20 AM)fat lesbian Wrote: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/01/19/wo...story.html

I was actually discussing this person with a friend today about DPRK, I was about to read his book

guess I'll renege
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(09-23-2017, 07:12 AM)grue Wrote: the DPRK is a shithole but the bigger point is what moral authority does the USA as a political-military force have to criticize its atrocities when it is fully submerged in innocent blood

why should I trust the USA over the DPRK with nuclear weapons

why should I trust anyone with nuclear weapons

thank you for putting it in better words
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(09-23-2017, 10:18 AM)fat lesbian Wrote: Anyway, the south korean government pays NK “defectors” to outright lie and every single one of the most popular defector stories is either riddled with obvious lies and contradictions, with VERY basic aspects of the story (basic as in “Are your parents alive”) changing between tellings or are outright false

and america and every other western power has commited actual documented human rights atrocities, but cool let’s gloss over that in favor of some weird orientalist “BUT THE DPRK ARE THE UNSTABLE ONES!” rhetoric when they have stated time and time again they will ONLY strike in retaliation and self defense against capitalist imperialist forces

read a fucking book kentucky fried you douche



so you don't think there are human right violations on a massive scale in north korea?
"but western countries violated human rights as well" sounds just like whataboutism 
also do you think anyone would actually want to touch north korea 
that would turn into a massive unpredictable mess for china and south korea and even though there is a orange retard sitting in the white house there are still people in the us government and military with a shred of sanity left
fact is unlike north korea the us is still a stable democracy while north korea is to quote grue a shithole
do i want a retarded fat manchild to have nukes? hell no
do i want a senile narcissistic piece of shit to have nukes? still no 
but at the end of the day the us is still a democracy where the powers keep each other in check and its values match my position as a person of the western world
the us doesn't have the moral authority over anyone but might makes right guys 
shit sucks but what can you do 
so yeah i'm taking a western stance here so to say 
not like we live in an utopia but at least it's not fucking north korea
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the United States of America is a Federal Republic
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yes and a democracy
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(09-23-2017, 02:02 PM)Kentucky Fried Wrote:
(09-23-2017, 10:18 AM)fat lesbian Wrote: Anyway, the south korean government pays NK “defectors” to outright lie and every single one of the most popular defector stories is either riddled with obvious lies and contradictions, with VERY basic aspects of the story (basic as in “Are your parents alive”) changing between tellings or are outright false

and america and every other western power has commited actual documented human rights atrocities, but cool let’s gloss over that in favor of some weird orientalist “BUT THE DPRK ARE THE UNSTABLE ONES!” rhetoric when they have stated time and time again they will ONLY strike in retaliation and self defense against capitalist imperialist forces

read a fucking book kentucky fried you douche



so you don't think there are human right violations on a massive scale in north korea?
"but western countries violated human rights as well" sounds just like whataboutism 
also do you think anyone would actually want to touch north korea 
that would turn into a massive unpredictable mess for china and south korea and even though there is a orange retard sitting in the white house there are still people in the us government and military with a shred of sanity left
fact is unlike north korea the us is still a stable democracy while north korea is to quote grue a shithole
do i want a retarded fat manchild to have nukes? hell no
do i want a senile narcissistic piece of shit to have nukes? still no 
but at the end of the day the us is still a democracy where the powers keep each other in check and its values match my position as a person of the western world
the us doesn't have the moral authority over anyone but might makes right guys 
shit sucks but what can you do 
so yeah i'm taking a western stance here so to say 
not like we live in an utopia but at least it's not fucking north korea

i think you’re a genuine fucking idiot if you believe every bit of propaganda given to you by the media about the dprk the same way you’re a fucking idiot if you believe the us’s propaganda that it’s lkrerally any better. 

name one thing you think the dprk is doing (which I guarantee they aren’t) and ill tell you exactly when the US did the same fucking thing you worthless reactionary 

“at least it’s not North Korea” tell that to the starving and the homeless and the people imprisoned for the sole reason that slavery is very literally constitutionally legal in prisons in the us :)
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i can’t imagine being as mind blowingly liberal and pants shittingly stupid as you or anything you wrote in that entire paragraph
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imagine being so, so stupid and gullible that you allow propaganda about the only government actively resisting us imperialism to be shoved directly down your throat and then thank the us for its abuse of its most vulnerable while still claiming a moral high ground. amazing.
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i posted a link about human rights violations in north korea earlier
i also never said that there weren't human rights violations in the us
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you posted a link from a UK based organization that supports sanctioning the DPRK so yeah, not really trusting the objectivity of your shit source.
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your source also as a history of marked bias against non western countries so try harder, cunt
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http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC...04573.html
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then what sources do you believe
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how about ones that don’t have a vested interest in maintaining us and uk propaganda and defending capitalism and imperialism like lmfao this isn’t hard
how long until you pull out some shit from the south korean cryptofash government because you don’t know a fucking thing about the korean peninsula but you try to talk about it anyway
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which ones would that be
wouldn't most western organizations have a western bias the same way for example russian organizations have a russian bias
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