10-06-2016, 09:53 PM
we have a balance between private and public universities. but only like one or two "true private" universities are any good. most of them are just places where you can buy your degree with a lot of money, and they are funded on tuition money and deals with companies.
the real challenge is at public and semi-public universities. those provide the best courses and teaching. the funding is through taxes, tuition and also deals with companies (sponsorships investments etc). all of this alongside your standard conferences/publishing cash cows. recently there has been a push to turn faculties into foundations, because that would open the legal ground for donations by special interests which has its advantages and disadvantages.
the major advantage of going into public university is the quality, of course, those are the best courses in like 95% of times (shit like MBA's being the exception) and the reduced tuition. it used to be 100% free likee 20 years ago but they pushed the tuition and won despite major nation-wide, sometimes violent, protests. it's still considerably cheap, depending on the course and university. my phd, for example, is incredibly cheap, im paying 1.2k € a year, which is just a little over the standard tuition for majors. there are many other price lines, though, ascending to the 10k or more in some cases, depending on a variety of factors.
we have a minimum schooling requirement for all the population. it used to be 9th grade but it's 11th grade right now i think. if you want to go to college you need to go through school first, that's mandatory, and then there are national exams at specific disciplines to access courses - ie you wanna enroll in medicine, you need to have a very high grade in biology and chemistry (i think). there's an average between your school grades and your exam grade, and entry is determined by that, meaning that if you don't score high enough you fall below the cut and you won't make it in.
there is always room for everyone but obviously the highes sought courses will be much more difficult to enroll in. for example, though i had a very high grade coming in, anthropology in my year had people coming in with 10s (out of 20, barely failing the minimum requirements of 9.5), and because noone cares about this subject it didnt even meet the minimum quorum.
needless to say a lot of these people don't make it through to the end, or they major with a very low grade which means they will never ammount to anything on that job line.
ideally i would remove quotas altogether. i think you should enroll in whatever course you want, provided you meet some minimum requirements. i dont feel it's right that you're cut off from your passion just because you scored 18,67 rather than 18,69. I also feel like university should be challenging, I feel like professors are often pressured to be lenient on their students in fear of losing them to other courses - classes under 12(?) students or something may lose the justification to exist at all., leading professors to paint them in a better light so that students dont give up.
so ideally imo college should be free and unrestricted in entry. courses administered and judged internally by scientific consensus and under a plan for the university ethos, and then attendance could be an extra factor but not necessarily. being admitted into a course isnt having a free pass to finish it, though, and there are minimum requirements added on top of schooling to weed out the lazy (but not a limited NUMBER, is what im saying). and i guess for economy sake, free attendance could be limited in time? say you have like 7 years of free college, after that you'll pay tuition. so you finish your course free of charge, if you wanna enroll again while working that's fine but now you pay.
also i dont agree with risbolla at all. incidentally i also dont see university as a "prepare yourself for work" phase where you'r honing skills. i mean, it can be that surely, but also education is a value itself. go major in psychology and then end up serving tables, i dont see a problem with that, work is work and being surrounded by educated people makes for a better society
this is all excluding the research part of uni, people often jumble the two together but it's a speparate thing with its own distinct internal workings and funding
the real challenge is at public and semi-public universities. those provide the best courses and teaching. the funding is through taxes, tuition and also deals with companies (sponsorships investments etc). all of this alongside your standard conferences/publishing cash cows. recently there has been a push to turn faculties into foundations, because that would open the legal ground for donations by special interests which has its advantages and disadvantages.
the major advantage of going into public university is the quality, of course, those are the best courses in like 95% of times (shit like MBA's being the exception) and the reduced tuition. it used to be 100% free likee 20 years ago but they pushed the tuition and won despite major nation-wide, sometimes violent, protests. it's still considerably cheap, depending on the course and university. my phd, for example, is incredibly cheap, im paying 1.2k € a year, which is just a little over the standard tuition for majors. there are many other price lines, though, ascending to the 10k or more in some cases, depending on a variety of factors.
we have a minimum schooling requirement for all the population. it used to be 9th grade but it's 11th grade right now i think. if you want to go to college you need to go through school first, that's mandatory, and then there are national exams at specific disciplines to access courses - ie you wanna enroll in medicine, you need to have a very high grade in biology and chemistry (i think). there's an average between your school grades and your exam grade, and entry is determined by that, meaning that if you don't score high enough you fall below the cut and you won't make it in.
there is always room for everyone but obviously the highes sought courses will be much more difficult to enroll in. for example, though i had a very high grade coming in, anthropology in my year had people coming in with 10s (out of 20, barely failing the minimum requirements of 9.5), and because noone cares about this subject it didnt even meet the minimum quorum.
needless to say a lot of these people don't make it through to the end, or they major with a very low grade which means they will never ammount to anything on that job line.
ideally i would remove quotas altogether. i think you should enroll in whatever course you want, provided you meet some minimum requirements. i dont feel it's right that you're cut off from your passion just because you scored 18,67 rather than 18,69. I also feel like university should be challenging, I feel like professors are often pressured to be lenient on their students in fear of losing them to other courses - classes under 12(?) students or something may lose the justification to exist at all., leading professors to paint them in a better light so that students dont give up.
so ideally imo college should be free and unrestricted in entry. courses administered and judged internally by scientific consensus and under a plan for the university ethos, and then attendance could be an extra factor but not necessarily. being admitted into a course isnt having a free pass to finish it, though, and there are minimum requirements added on top of schooling to weed out the lazy (but not a limited NUMBER, is what im saying). and i guess for economy sake, free attendance could be limited in time? say you have like 7 years of free college, after that you'll pay tuition. so you finish your course free of charge, if you wanna enroll again while working that's fine but now you pay.
also i dont agree with risbolla at all. incidentally i also dont see university as a "prepare yourself for work" phase where you'r honing skills. i mean, it can be that surely, but also education is a value itself. go major in psychology and then end up serving tables, i dont see a problem with that, work is work and being surrounded by educated people makes for a better society
this is all excluding the research part of uni, people often jumble the two together but it's a speparate thing with its own distinct internal workings and funding
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