01-25-2019, 09:38 AM
as much as i miss the general forum i dont have the energy to have a big discussion/argument over stuff rn but ill try to clarify my appreciation for the article
-as the article cites, 38% don't meet the wage requirements
-there is a 4% unemployment rate
-let's say all 11 million illegal immigrants in the US are 1) undocumented/unaccounted for 2) adults 3) not making a living wage, that's still only 3%
so, you're gonna have to tell me that 45% can be described as the "vast majority" when it isn't even a majority. let's slap another 6% on there for no reason and still we only have a majority. it's just another way for aoc/the "left" to push an idea but not actually address an issue at hand. i dunno where he contradicts himself, i generally trust washington post so idk
im stupid, this just sounds like grumpitude
(01-25-2019, 08:28 AM)grue Wrote: that Washington Post article isn't fact-checking, it's clear propagandabut, she obviously meant to paint the issue as a very big problem by using the phrase "vast majority" when the reality is:
his first point is confusing as heck. first he says that living standards are difficult to measure (true) but then tries to paint AOC as if she's either lying or ignorant (I'd go for demagogic but ok); so far so good but then he goes on to look at income of employed persons?? what?? not only does he contradict himself but he completely glosses over the unemployed, unregistered and of course the illegals. kinda bad when you're trying to accuse others of being sloppy.
-as the article cites, 38% don't meet the wage requirements
-there is a 4% unemployment rate
-let's say all 11 million illegal immigrants in the US are 1) undocumented/unaccounted for 2) adults 3) not making a living wage, that's still only 3%
so, you're gonna have to tell me that 45% can be described as the "vast majority" when it isn't even a majority. let's slap another 6% on there for no reason and still we only have a majority. it's just another way for aoc/the "left" to push an idea but not actually address an issue at hand. i dunno where he contradicts himself, i generally trust washington post so idk
(01-25-2019, 08:28 AM)grue Wrote: then he throws her a bone about families because that always looks good in WaPo
im stupid, this just sounds like grumpitude
(01-25-2019, 08:28 AM)grue Wrote: THEN he does something absolutely egregious which is to counterpoint her accusation that big companies like walmart and amazon get government handouts while treating their employees like garbage, to which he counters with... a statement from the fucking amazon spokesperson? really? let's just ignore the mountains of evidence of abuse AND of handouts just like she saidhere's the thing though: it's sloppy because there is no small list of companies that do shrift their employees with really low wages and then get mondo bucks from government food/farm/resource subsidies (like mcdonalds) but she doesnt mention those for some reason, she mentions the ones that have taken at least half a baby step toward doing something right
