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I am a Doctor now
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(07-14-2018, 03:43 AM)fat lesbian Wrote: if you know the name of that sociologist id love to read it, me and other local leftists have been trying to deal with predators in our community and how/whether it’s worth it to deal with it ourselves or turn him into the state. not all of them know or think very much about why people behave the way they do tho, so while some of us are trying to isolate him others are trying to rehabilitate. i don’t think it’s gonna work.

and yeah prisons have an enormous recidivism rate in the US because they don’t really even do anything to address the problem. it’s like if a little kid screams and you smack it. how is smacking it gonna help? you just pissed it off and now it’s gonna end up worse than before

and ohhh ok ya that makes more sense i don’t think I’d ever seen the term before. people are generally in jail before trail here too, and certain crimes have very high or no bail, but it’s also arbitrary and can be set by a judge so obviously a bigoted judge setting your bail can end up pretty badly even for a minor non violent crime. same with sentencing. the whole process here is really entirely up to very few people which leads to people having life sentences for possessing the crack that the Reagan administration introduced into their neighborhoods ! it’s all a fuckin scam

the “cold rationality” people make me rethink being in stem tbh because they’re everywhere... ppl don’t understand that you can MAKE numbers fit your narrative. people here say “oh well there’s more black people in prison so they must commit more crime” but it doesn’t fucking work like that lol. it’s shit that’s so entrenched that fighting it and arguing against it w normies is overwhelming.

here school funding is determined by the property tax of the area because America is seriously fucking dystopian and kids with poor parents end up in shitty schools in areas the police deem as “bad” (you can get arrested just for being in them! it happened to me driving five minutes from my house in a “bad area” and I was arrested and charged with loitering). a lot of the time in places like that you have to turn to crime for any type of support system or even just to survive bc you were denied the kind of education that actually gives you any mobility, and for most people from these areas college is out of reach because the interest rate on loans will end up having you owe like hundreds of thousands of dollars by the time you’re done. sucks here

I want to say the sociologist was Alain Touraine, because it fits, but truthfully I read that 10years ago while doing my masters and I lost the refference. tried to find it so many times, and even though im confident it was Touraine I just don't know the source anymore because I'm an idiot that didn't save it

you've never heard of "proactive sentencing" because it's something I made up here to cover up for the fact that I forgot its actual name lol but yeah, it's a thing and it's been a thing ever since prisons as the major form of punishment started to exist. you've probably heard of Loïc Wacquant but if you haven't I can't oversell his book Punishing the Poor enough, it's about the american prison system, the school-to-prison pipeline etc. it's so good that it's honestly infuriating how everything didn't come crumbling down after he published it. why don't people read

there's a whole chapter on sex offenders also, worth a look https://libcom.org/files/Lo%C3%AFc%20Wac...20Poor.pdf

I sometimes watch iqsquared debates because I tell myself that I like to hear different sides of a debate when in reality my life is a dumpster fire and I like to hurt myself by participating on the lie that there's any intellectual value coming out of sitting in a room for an afteroon watching pundits peddle their trade and then participating in a sham voting scheme that's so obviously broken oxford shoul just call it a day. anyway there was one debate about whether or not the police was systematically racist, and the "no" side were all about how this is false, and that the truth is that black people commit more crimes. and it was infuriating how the other side just failed to point out the glaring fucking Post hoc ergo propter hoc (that's right fuckers I googled it); that criminals are MADE as much as they make themselves (just like how niki got arrested); that you can be a racist AND do your job right at the same time; that this isn't a debate when people who know their shit already pointed it out as established fact

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