us election thread

[grue]

it seems like it's adding up several different polls across the country into a big graph, not sure though

[fat lesbian]

see i don't think that's terribly reliable then

[Ben]

any poll whatsoever is shit

sample size: says it right on the image. the size of the dot refers to around 1, 3, 6, 11, and 16k people

sample groups: standard operating procedure is to call a number of people and ask what they would do in a voting situation

number of polls: there are raw polls, but i believe those are aggregate polls (a weighted average according to the difference in size of the constituent polls)

what areas: i assume some statistical dispersion

[Ben]

you ask people, you get numbers. you plot the numbers on the graph and you fit a line to it. the statistics are usually a-ok, but if your complaint is that polling is inherently lame then i cant disagree

that being said, this is how they do it all the time and so you can at least look at it from the context of what we have seen generally

[K-Man]

No survey or poll has ever asked me a single thing. Did you know 87% of statistics are made up on the spot?

[fat lesbian]

nah ben, "i assume" and "i believe" aren't really the answers im looking for here
those polls never mean anything because different areas and different segments of the population have (generally) wild variance in their candidate of choice and if you're not equally representing every large group in the country then ur poll, like i said, means nothing. especially when it's "what would you do in a voting situation" bc not all the ppl they asked are actually voting.

[Delirious Biznasty]

No survey or poll has ever asked me a single thing. Did you know 87% of statistics are made up on the spot?

No, it's 80%
 
Look at this guy, making up statistics on the spot.

[Ben]

nah ben, "i assume" and "i believe" aren't really the answers im looking for here
those polls never mean anything because different areas and different segments of the population have (generally) wild variance in their candidate of choice and if you're not equally representing every large group in the country then ur poll, like i said, means nothing. especially when it's "what would you do in a voting situation" bc not all the ppl they asked are actually voting.

any poll whatsoever is shit

you ask people, you get numbers. you plot the numbers on the graph and you fit a line to it. the statistics are usually a-ok, but if your complaint is that polling is inherently lame then i cant disagree

that being said, this is how they do it all the time and so you can at least look at it from the context of what we have seen generally

ok i dont know what to tell you if you dont actually read a post

[Ben]

i mean, im all for saying "its shit, thats shit, everythings shit, what does it matter" but for the sake of discussion i like to contribute some thing or another

[fat lesbian]

idk how you get that i didn't read the post based on me telling you how you didn't even answer my questions but if you insist little man

[fat lesbian]

do u say that to everyone who responds to what u say directly? or do you only ever do that to me despite me having very obviously read the posts. jw

[Ben]

no i only do it to the ones who cant read (why would you ask what the sample size is.......... its right on the image)

[Ben]

anyway ok sorry theres hardly contention here, polls suck but its what we got so im givin it. pls talk about election things sorry

[fat lesbian]

yes ben im absolutely going to count every single dot of every single size and add them all up to find the overall sample size as im absolutely sure you did

[grue]

I'm unironically sure he did